cowboyz
8 Oct 2008, 08:36 PM
mint. It is actually borrowed off phil the farmer.
Obviously he hasnt spoken to manwithav8 lately or he probably wouldnt have lent it to me (and expected it to be returned any time soon)
Got a ciggy lighter adapter from supercheap for $17. wired that up and plugged the detector in. (its a valentine one).
Rode round town looking for some policemen to see if I could set it off , or see what it looks like when it goes off but couldnt find one so came home instead.
Was going to put a screamer on it but the alarm on it (had a heap of false alerts through town) is so loud that I dont think I will need one.
Very cool and even more ready for the 4 points now. just have to sort the weather out.
IBTIT
8 Oct 2008, 08:45 PM
Now you've got it on the cops vanish,thinking of upgrading the car one to a Valentine 1 or Bel sti/rx,but then saw the cost,the whistler I have will suffice in the car.Check out the thread on kb about putting a screamer on if it can't be heard at 120km or so,good pics and info loaded today.
Don't forget to remove it when stopped and bike isn't in view,gone in 60 seconds.
Kiwikat
8 Oct 2008, 08:48 PM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 8 Oct 2008, 09:36 PM)

(had a heap of false alerts through town)
Very cool and even more ready for the 4 points now. just have to sort the weather out.
Looks cool, makes the bike go faster too.
I see why you don't ride with the fast group. It could be hitting the brake with all those false alerts. Are you sure you'll make it around the 4 points in time?
strang0r
8 Oct 2008, 08:51 PM
radars are great.... they may not always prevent a ticket but they give you more of a chance to keep your license...
awesome, now i got two buffers
Danica BladeBreaker
9 Oct 2008, 06:43 AM
They are a God Send!
I have a Bell RX65 with the H.A.R.D. Heads Up System in the helmet. No need for a screamer so its discrete, can still use the iPod and it also has a (tested by me and proven) 2.5km range on the desert road.
Just watch out for Snr Sgts that flash their radar on and off. The detector won't catch thm until either they catch you OR you pick up a splash off another car being flashed up ahead.
Another fact. The cop radar is effective to 800mm max on a straight road, clear day. Halve that for drizzle, half again for rain.
Radar is ineffective when the patrol car is travlling the same direction as the target as its designed for a closing target only. It has a corrction for a closing target built in so if the partrol car behind or the target alter speed it screws the reading.
TerminalAddict
9 Oct 2008, 07:31 AM
sweet dude .. .the screamer is a good addition if you're post 100kph

.. you can hear it up to some enormous speed
QUOTE (Danica BladeBreaker @ 9 Oct 2008, 07:43 AM)

They are a God Send!
I have a Bell RX65 with the H.A.R.D. Heads Up System in the helmet. No need for a screamer so its discrete, can still use the iPod and it also has a (tested by me and proven) 2.5km range on the desert road.
Just watch out for Snr Sgts that flash their radar on and off. The detector won't catch thm until either they catch you OR you pick up a splash off another car being flashed up ahead.
Another fact. The cop radar is effective to 800mm max on a straight road, clear day. Halve that for drizzle, half again for rain.
Radar is ineffective when the patrol car is travlling the same direction as the target as its designed for a closing target only. It has a corrction for a closing target built in so if the partrol car behind or the target alter speed it screws the reading.
err...you seem to know an awful lot about this stuff Miss D
Meanie
9 Oct 2008, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (Danica BladeBreaker @ 9 Oct 2008, 07:43 AM)

They are a God Send!
I have a Bell RX65 with the H.A.R.D. Heads Up System in the helmet. No need for a screamer so its discrete, can still use the iPod and it also has a (tested by me and proven) 2.5km range on the desert road.
Just watch out for Snr Sgts that flash their radar on and off. The detector won't catch thm until either they catch you OR you pick up a splash off another car being flashed up ahead.
Another fact. The cop radar is effective to 800mm max on a straight road, clear day. Halve that for drizzle, half again for rain.
Radar is ineffective when the patrol car is travlling the same direction as the target as its designed for a closing target only. It has a corrction for a closing target built in so if the partrol car behind or the target alter speed it screws the reading.
How long does the battery last in your H.A.R.D. system, just brought it with my STI but was warned they loose battery quick and dont give you any warning
Meanie
9 Oct 2008, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (yod @ 8 Oct 2008, 10:21 PM)

awesome, now i got two buffers
Waste of time, Your leading
QUOTE (Meanie @ 9 Oct 2008, 02:03 PM)

Waste of time, Your leading

pffft
trust me mate
any ride that Dogs is on, I'm quietly confident I won't be up front
Horse
9 Oct 2008, 02:57 PM
QUOTE (Danica BladeBreaker @ 9 Oct 2008, 07:43 AM)

The cop radar is effective to 800mm max on a straight road, clear day.
Really? Who needs a detector, at that distance you could just reach back and pull the power cord out!
Danica BladeBreaker
9 Oct 2008, 04:20 PM
Hello guys and girls from Tauranga. Hope your enjoying the wind. Its diabolical here in the Bay!
Yod - I have a penchant for speed and gadgets. So a radar detector was a no brainer. I know so much about the Hawk as I went out with an MP for a while when I first joined up with the army and they use the system in their patrol cars.
Meanie - I have gotten about 80 - 90 hours running time out of each set of batteries. Its a flawed design in that the units not water proof and to switch out batteries you need to disassemble the unit and lift out the circuit board. I have been getting replacement batteries from The watch shop on Broadway. Shame they didn't think to make it waterproof AND rechargeable. MKII will be an improvement I guess.
I want to try the new helmet HEADSUP system that I've seem overseas. They mount on your helmet and project the speed, tacho, shift light etc onto the visor. Sounds like fun! Going to try one when we hit Portugal for the SBK finals and our bike trip. Will let you all know how they stack up.
banditrider
9 Oct 2008, 06:41 PM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 8 Oct 2008, 09:36 PM)

mint. It is actually borrowed off phil the farmer.
Obviously he hasnt spoken to manwithav8 lately or he probably wouldnt have lent it to me (and expected it to be returned any time soon)
Got a ciggy lighter adapter from supercheap for $17. wired that up and plugged the detector in. (its a valentine one).
Rode round town looking for some policemen to see if I could set it off , or see what it looks like when it goes off but couldnt find one so came home instead.
Was going to put a screamer on it but the alarm on it (had a heap of false alerts through town) is so loud that I dont think I will need one.
Very cool and even more ready for the 4 points now. just have to sort the weather out.
The home-made screamer post is here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=83459Sounds like a good idea. I still haven't tried my one (the ex-Meanie one) as v1 of my mount isn't waterproof, hopefully v2 will be. Not sure if I'll take it on the GC yet -would be nice but don't want to have to stop and take it off if there's cloud moisture about.
cowboyz
9 Oct 2008, 07:22 PM
I still playing round with it. Got a poor mans screamer via a 3mm plastic hose. Havent hooked it up yet. The noise level from the V1 seems quite loud. I can hear it quite easily without a screamer but only been playing round in town cause I havent found a cop yet.
banditrider
9 Oct 2008, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 9 Oct 2008, 08:22 PM)

I still playing round with it. Got a poor mans screamer via a 3mm plastic hose. Havent hooked it up yet. The noise level from the V1 seems quite loud. I can hear it quite easily without a screamer but only been playing round in town cause I havent found a cop yet.
They do seem to work. Mine went off 3 times between Palmy & Bulls the other weekend and wasn't lying...
cowboyz
9 Oct 2008, 07:33 PM
what kind of alerts you got on yours BR?
TerminalAddict
9 Oct 2008, 10:16 PM
the screamer is very good when group riding .. it alerts everyone
cowboyz
28 Oct 2008, 07:05 PM
I borrowed a Valentine 1 on the ride on the weekend. I was convinced it wasnt working when we passed a few cops and it didnt beep at all. It was recommended that not all cops have thier radars on so hard to detect.
I read the manual and it says it doesnt matter what it is set on it scans all channels all the time. I had it on A which is report all bogeys. It picks up servos from a mile away. No cops and all.
On recommendation from Meanie I changed it to small L. Came across a cop on the ohope road and it went off like a chrismass tree. Mint. Working.
Then we hit Auckland and I saw 5 cops and the radar detector didnt see any of them. Speeds were pretty legal so no problems.
Then further north I came round a corner and a cop was going the other way. He waved at me and I took it as a telling off. The radar saw nothing.
Then he turned round and booked me for 111km/hr. When I pulled over and he pulled up behind me the RD went nuts.
So I am thinking it either doesnt work or it has old software and the cops use updated system that it cant see or can only see sometimes.
thoughts?
TerminalAddict
29 Oct 2008, 07:20 AM
I suspect something is set up wrong .. my escort x50 is awesome
cowboyz
29 Oct 2008, 08:09 AM
just changed a heap of setting on it. will take it out and willing to bet I dont find a single cop all day
JadedBlade
29 Oct 2008, 09:08 AM
So why aren't you riding past a cop shop like the one in Feilding?? They leave their radars on in the parked cars and you ALWAYS get a reading near them.
Come on cowboyz, switch on. If you want to find a cop look at the station, then the bakery.
cowboyz
29 Oct 2008, 12:45 PM
took the new settings past the PN copshop and it gave a single blip as I went past. Doesnt detect servos anymore. could be on to something.
sarge
29 Oct 2008, 04:03 PM
Yeah, sounds like a step in the right direction anyways.
banditrider
29 Oct 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 29 Oct 2008, 01:45 PM)

took the new settings past the PN copshop and it gave a single blip as I went past. Doesnt detect servos anymore. could be on to something.
Brian was talking to a dude in one of the boy racer shops and he said that they could do upgrades on most detectors - software I guess. May be worth a crack...
yod
29 Oct 2008, 07:31 PM
lol
cowboyz got a soft spot for boy racers
cowboyz
29 Oct 2008, 08:17 PM
boiracers rock. It is a comeditive thing to see how quickly you can get them from cockroostering to crying.....
IBTIT
30 Oct 2008, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 29 Oct 2008, 09:17 PM)

boiracers rock. It is a comeditive thing to see how quickly you can get them from cockroostering to crying.....
Like that idea,after coming back from Manfield couple weeks ago,a clown in an MR2 Toymota came past,woohoo I thought,caught him at 110km went passed,he then went passed,cool 2 up and pass him,turned onto road to Newbury I think,he went passed after I recieved a couple of taps on the lid,and a nice cop car nabbed him ,that was why I slowed down,mr MR2 driver wanted to show off,went passed me doing probably 130km,and cop about 250mt ahead.
And to the dickheads at lights thinking their jap import turbo is cool,just drop the XR6 into first and by by,by the time they realise the turbo will kick in next lights and wait,they just don't learn,turbo lag.
IBTIT
30 Oct 2008, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 29 Oct 2008, 09:17 PM)

boiracers rock. It is a comeditive thing to see how quickly you can get them from cockroostering to crying.....
Like that idea,after coming back from Manfield couple weeks ago,a clown in an MR2 Toymota came past,woohoo I thought,caught him at 110km went passed,he then went passed,cool 2 up and pass him,turned onto road to Newbury I think,he went passed after I recieved a couple of taps on the lid,and a nice cop car nabbed him ,that was why I slowed down,mr MR2 driver wanted to show off,went passed me doing probably 130km,and cop about 250mt ahead.
And to the dickheads at lights thinking their jap import turbo is cool,just drop the XR6 into first and by by,by the time they realise the turbo will kick in next lights and wait,they just don't learn,turbo lag.
IBTIT
30 Oct 2008, 06:57 AM
QUOTE (cowboyz @ 29 Oct 2008, 09:17 PM)

boiracers rock. It is a comeditive thing to see how quickly you can get them from cockroostering to crying.....
Like that idea,after coming back from Manfield couple weeks ago,a clown in an MR2 Toymota came past,woohoo I thought,caught him at 110km went passed,he then went passed,cool 2 up and pass him,turned onto road to Newbury I think,he went passed after I recieved a couple of taps on the lid,and a nice cop car nabbed him ,that was why I slowed down,mr MR2 driver wanted to show off,went passed me doing probably 130km,and cop about 250mt ahead.
And to the dickheads at lights thinking their jap import turbo is cool,just drop the XR6 into first and by by,by the time they realise the turbo will kick in next lights and wait,they just don't learn,turbo lag.
Meanie
1 Nov 2008, 08:08 AM
The new Bell STI works mint especialy with the heads up display in the helmet
JadedBlade
1 Nov 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (IBTIT @ 30 Oct 2008, 07:57 AM)

Like that idea,after coming back from Manfield couple weeks ago,a clown in an MR2 Toymota came past,woohoo I thought,caught him at 110km went passed,he then went passed,cool 2 up and pass him,turned onto road to Newbury I think,he went passed after I recieved a couple of taps on the lid,and a nice cop car nabbed him ,that was why I slowed down,mr MR2 driver wanted to show off,went passed me doing probably 130km,and cop about 250mt ahead.
And to the dickheads at lights thinking their jap import turbo is cool,just drop the XR6 into first and by by,by the time they realise the turbo will kick in next lights and wait,they just don't learn,turbo lag.
Turbo lag only exists on either poorly tuned and set up rides, stock cars or very high boost cars. Plenty of ways to reduce lag. A Launch Control is the most common nowadays, and we've had a lot of success with these on our trackday cars. Also a shot of nitrous works perfectly to negate Lag. I used a HolleyNOS system up until the start of this year on my Accord and it ran well with the turbo. A smaller turbo for faster spool is a nasty surprise aswell. The XR6 is not going to get to the lights first against a same $$ modded jap car. Not ever. Sorry but if your beating kids at lights, they are just that, first fast car owning restricted license kids in mostly stock small cars vs a boosted 6. It would be like racing a CBR1000 vs an RS125. cool.
I would love to see an XR6 given to one of these young nuttas to mod and see what they could get out of one with a few hightech jap turbo and electronic parts. Now there would be a weapon.
danboy
11 Nov 2008, 07:23 PM
"The cop radar is effective to 800mm max on a straight road." ???!
My god! I'm surprised they catch anyone at all if they have less than a metre range on them radars.
IBTIT
12 Nov 2008, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (JadedBlade @ 1 Nov 2008, 10:51 AM)

Turbo lag only exists on either poorly tuned and set up rides, stock cars or very high boost cars. Plenty of ways to reduce lag. A Launch Control is the most common nowadays, and we've had a lot of success with these on our trackday cars. Also a shot of nitrous works perfectly to negate Lag. I used a HolleyNOS system up until the start of this year on my Accord and it ran well with the turbo. A smaller turbo for faster spool is a nasty surprise aswell. The XR6 is not going to get to the lights first against a same $$ modded jap car. Not ever. Sorry but if your beating kids at lights, they are just that, first fast car owning restricted license kids in mostly stock small cars vs a boosted 6. It would be like racing a CBR1000 vs an RS125. cool.
I would love to see an XR6 given to one of these young nuttas to mod and see what they could get out of one with a few hightech jap turbo and electronic parts. Now there would be a weapon.
Yep they seem to think "turbo" and means quick,only it aint quick if you can't get the power to the road without spinning wheels,that is where the torque of a V8 beats turbos,as they say aint no substtitute for cubes.Mind you was a laugh a year or so ago,in Te Awamutu an old speedway driver who was pretty good,went to race a camaro on tarmac,let loose at a give way or stop sign in his MercedesV8,only a cop saw him and pinged him for loss of traction etc,the dickhead went through the court system to try and get off,the judge in the end said sir you must know when you turn the traction control off,as the bloody light goes on.The lawyer tried to palm it off.
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